So he's got the script, which I sent him. >> Okay. >> I took your memo and I used it as the base outline and I tried to build an introduction around it. And then actually, I kind of got rid of your introduction, I used your three main paragraphs. And in your paragraphs, I wanted to introduce the courses first, so I took, I think it's the fourth paragraph and slotted it up. I was thinking about them as kind of my modular content units. And in my MOOC, I make a big deal about how those are movable, depending on how you feel. So anyway, I sent it to him, he printed it out. Dave, Dave. >> Yeah? >> What did you think? How did you do there? >> Yeah, well I took a look at the script and it looks like it's going to be pretty easy to convert to something that's visually impactful and that complements your style of speaking, which is important. >> Great. >> And so I just want to just show three kind of rough ideas. I always like to come up with three ideas to show to clients, or for my own use, that kind of go in three different directions. >> Great. >> And then from there we can narrow things down. >> Let's see. >> Okay. >> This is what I've come up as the title slide. So there's, obviously the name of the talk. And we established a theme here. And I don't know. Let's do this. We're going to just go to the run mode, so that you can see them. It's sort of a user experience. So there's one. >> So that's pretty. >> Yeah, I like the coffee cup. >> I like the way the color and the coffee cup- >> Yeah. >> Are talking to each other. >> Yeah, we'll talk about that in my design course. Always trying to pull color from elements within any given design to make things feel harmonious. >> So- >> Wait. Go Ahead. >> It looks a little like you got it from the internet to me. >> I kind of, I did. >> I mean, that's kind of my first, you did? [LAUGH] >> Well there you go! >> Well, I got it from a public domain >> Say. >> Well at least >> So we didn't steal it. >> I didn't steal it but it does feel like stock photography. >> It does. >> It does a little. I like the direction it's going. It has a certain warmth to it, a coziness to it. I like that but I agree with >> It does feel- >> You know, the coffee cup is sort of our theme, so. Because we drink a lot of coffee here. >> [LAUGH] >> A lot of coffee. >> Can never have too much coffee. >> So here's another look. >> Which is like that >> Completely different. I call this a flat graphic look. Nothing is three dimensional, there are no gradients. And it has a completely different feel to it. >> I tell you, I like this a lot. I like the boldness. It's funny because it's the same color as the cup in the other one, but the cup is gone, it doesn't matter. But I like the boldness, I like it. It feels strong to me and when I talk, I endeavor to be kind of forward and strong, so I like that. >> I actually, it's not, it doesn't, it's lost some of the warmth of the other piece and you're right, I think it is graphically very strong, but I think part of our message is this coming together and feeling of comfort in what we're doing. And, I'm thinking about your very strong, but then maybe it's nice to soften that. And have some >> Well maybe you'll, like this. >> Hey. >> Hey that's my- >> That's your book and your pen. >> My book and my pen. And that's great. >> And look, it's also our coffee mug. [LAUGH] >> [LAUGH] >> Well. >> He did that on purpose. >> I like this, look it's got our band, our logo band that Dave designed. >> So this is bringing in some of the feel for the photography that we use in our courses. But also the color. And using contrast between color and black and white. >> I'm noticing, if you told me you were going to do black and white, I would have. But now I see it. >> But it's still got color in it. A little bit, it's not complete black and white. >> It's not fully desaturated. So. >> Yeah, this. >> This is going back to the flat graphic feel, showing Coursera's logo with our logo. It's a rough draft, obviously, I dunno how you guys feel about that. >> So this would be a rough draft. So I see in my talk, I talk about a cycle of learning, and I connect that to Coursera's mission. And that's this. >> It's nice. >> That's, yeah, from the script. >> And I had it intended that the cycle of learning I'm talking about is picking up on the Coursera infinity logo. >> It's their logo. >> However, I got to say, Dave, I think a lot is lost here. Not to kind of beat you up about this. >> No, that's fine, that's why I'm here. >> One, this seems to me that it's going to become heavy handed. >> Yeah. >> If I see that on every slide. So using this as a header of the slide strikes me as heavy handed. And if I may, I like this, this isn't heavy-handed. >> But it's a nice detail. >> It's an offset detail. So to me, I would rather see that band than this. >> I've seen this type of thing used successfully a lot in presentation slides, the name of the organization, whatever, and then maybe even the topic shifting up But I can see that if we go back with this, things are going to feel more intuned- >> So are we all set on this? >> I just- >> Are we- >> Yeah. Yeah. I like it. And I can do wonders with this, I'm sure we can make it do all kinds of things with this. Then I just want to show you- >> That I like. >> It's clean. >> Where I might head with this particular look. Here, I'll show you. I think, in looking at your script, as we're getting the look and feel nailed down, this is kind of an idea of looking at the script and converting your talk into graphics, basically text slides that are very clean, very simple. >> So each of these is a slide? >> These are each slides, yup. >> Wow. >> And they will each sit there until William changes, and it seems like a lot of slides, and remember, they will sit there until William changes gears. And each has an individual slide. My feeling with presentation slides is that if the audience can look at the slide and understand it, gravid in a single look, then they return their attention to William, which is what presentation slides are all about. >> I agree. But when I do a presentation, I write my script and I endeavor to rehearse it and memorize it. But when I get up in front of people, I don't know, I'm going with the mood in the room. So I worry with too many slides that I may start going down, I may feel like the people in the room are like, I get what he's saying. And then I may want to go a little further on that point. And if the slide is too detailed or there are too many slides, then the slides- >> Constrain you, maybe. >> Constrain me. >> Yeah. >> So my own feeling is, though thank you for going over my script and paying attention, that we should go with less. You should go with just the broader points on the slides. And not get too detailed, because the details may change as I go. >> Really good singers that I've played behind as a bass player will change gears in the middle of a song. And we call that calling an audible. They will see what the audience is doing and their dancing and we may make the tune last longer or do something different with it. And that's actually really good because you have to respond to your audience. So what I want to is give you a suite of graphics that we can choose from when you give your talk, and we may, or may not use all of them. >> What I like is, that you distill those down to fewer slides, that are clearly, hierarchy, higher, key words. >> Perfect. >> Does that make sense? >> Yeah, no, it makes perfect sense. >> Very top level, is what you're saying. >> In my talk, if Paine is in the room, I'm going to make a big deal about it. I'm going to really call him out and compliment him. If he's not there, then I'm not going to mention it. >> Yeah. >> [LAUGH] >> They're all going to be sitting there saying, well this other guy did great, but what about us? If Alex Soren is in the room [SOUND] I'm going to mention him. So, I wouldn't put a name up there. >> Okay. >> Does that make sense? >> It makes perfect sense, because your slide should be there to support your relationship with the audience, not vice versa. >> Yes. >> Could we go back to the cycle of learning slide? >> While you're doing that, I just want to make an observation listening to the two of you talk, which is when we work on the memo, we're so precise and structured. And what you're really saying then is you're taking the memo and it becomes a much more fluid interactive experience when we're getting to the point of presentation, because it's in real time with a live audience. >> And that in itself is the difference between a presentation and a piece of writing. Or an advertisement which is fundamentally static, it has to be. And also it's important that it is, because if your memo makes great points about the professional nature of this course. It drives those to a market assessment. I may not go that way. I may not even mention the word market. >> Right? >> But it's captured in the memo, so I don't have to worry about that. I can take the temperature of the room. I can develop my own energy and roll in the direction that, and that's what makes it a presentation. >> Yeah, it does, absolutely. And a conversation. >> So, back to this, thanks for bringing this up. >> Yup. >> To me, the strength of this piece is dimensionality, muted power. I'm worried that, my computer skills are failing me at the moment. >> Okay. >> I'm worried, that this is too flat now. >> What do you think? Is there a way to add some dimensionality to that? >> When I design, that's what I'll do. I'll work with that. >> I think if we start with something, let's call it realistic, as opposed to iconic or abstract Then we have to maintain some sense of that realism. Maybe you disagree. >> No, I agree. And this type of presentation, you don't want to jolt the audience. Sometimes maybe you do, if I'm giving a talk to freshmen at the University of Colorado- >> [LAUGH] >> At 8 o'clock in the morning, I want to jolt the heck out of them, just to wake them up. >> [LAUGH] >> But in this case, we don't want to do that. So, I'll bear that in mind because we don't want those sudden shifts. >> So let's just review what we talked about. We're all in agreement that we liked that look. We're all in agreement that we like this look. >> Well, except this, we're going to go with a whiter >> That;s not white >> To the down arrow >> Yeah, okay, so point two. We're all in agreement we like this look >> I think it just pops more >> Yeah, agreed. >> Okay. >> You've done a nice job with my script. But i'm asking you to window it down a little bit. So that I have a little more freedom. And keep it pretty simple. And then I guess the fourth point is, a challenge you're going to have to address is, how to bring dimensionality to some pretty basic graphics. >> Piece of cake. >> You think you can do it? [LAUGH] >> Think he can do it. >> It's a little late to fire me. >> [LAUGH] >> That's all right, Clinton. Maybe we should go in a different direction. >> Yes. [LAUGH] >> All right, folks, onwards to the Capstone. [SOUND] >> Boom. >> All right.
