Okay, so Simon for our last and final question for this week. It's from Lorna so thank you Lorna. And the question is asking how much time is needed to plan a 10-month online course? >> Yeah. >> So, how do you respond to that? >> First of all I would say there' s no definitive answer. One thing about this MOOC, and I hope from people's interactions with it is we're being quite clear about saying there's not one way to do anything. There's a lot of dependencies. But, there was one person answered, put a really quite definitive answer in there and I think that really covers all the different aspects of what an online course needs. But what I would say is that as a teacher, you don't necessarily have to do all of that yourself. Because look around you. Look what others have done in your local area. Look what other good examples are out there. Look at open educational resources. You don't have to start from scratch every time. There is a lot of great stuff out there. And we've got a module on that too >> Module six. >> Thank you. Module six. So I think the thing is really. I agree with some of the points and they need to sit down workout who your students are, what your level of experience is, and workout a way to start. But you don't necessarily have to put all those larger infrastructures in place. So my recommendation would be came out online course. That's fine it's just really about the curriculum planning and then putting things in place. If you're not sure start slowly. For example, this MOOC, there was a six month development period and that wasn't full time. >> It was definitely not full time, it was probably about six months ago that Simon and I started just talking about what do we want this MOOC to look like, what do we want and to really achieve a broad level. And we started, I remember, with the learning outcomes we were talking about. What are these learning outcomes going to be? What do we want our students to achieve at the various levels depending on whether they're here to do the full course. >> Yeah. >> Not do through the full course, that sort of thing. And then you started talking about the assessments, and then you started talking about the activities to help perform the assessments and so on. Just like any other course that you would design. So even if you were to design a face-to-face course, you have to think about if you're designing a face-to-face course from scratch, how long does it take you? And I wouldn't necessarily say that designing a face-to-face course takes longer or less time than a fully online course. Some people might think that a face-to-face course takes less time but that's because they already have a material, so if you're starting from scratch, it could take time. >> I would say maybe it's a little bit more time investment up front because usually with online you have to hear the environment ahead of time. But that pays off later. >> Yes it does. >> So in summary, it's a very hard question to answer because it depends on how much you're taking responsibility for. But my advice would be, look at how much time you've got, look at what the course has to achieve. And then build within your means and then develop it further the next time and the next time. >> And I think another suggestion that was brought up in the thread too, which is you could try to move towards blended at first. >> Yeah. >> And then, so you're trying out some few new technologies. Which might not take you a long time to actually implement. It might take a day's work to think about, okay, there's this okay, right now my students discuss in the classroom or they present in the classroom. I want to provide that online. I'm going to implement a discussion form, I'm going to try that. And I have to say some it is trial and error. Like you sometimes have to try it out with your cover and see how it goes and then, learn from that. And maybe the following week or two weeks down the road. That particular type of way of doing the forum didn't work. Maybe I need to give them direct questions. Maybe I need to give them less questions. Whatever it may be. And then eventually you'll get it right. But I think you just have to realise there is some time around getting used to the technology. Because you should be aware of it. >> Mm-hm. >> And how to use it. But, be aware that it is. There is some trial and error involved in that, and that's okay. >> So, work your way through this MOOC. Do your best and then attack it again after you evaluated and see how it goes. >> Yeah. >> No, direct answer but, there isn't one in any way. >> Yeah, and like I probably said in other videos, start small, take some baby steps towards it and eventually you'll get there. Good luck.